GCongress> Fw: HJR 192 and its legal effect

LB Bork lb at pacinlaw.org
Wed May 12 05:33:21 CDT 2010


Boy, what a cluster of Mumbo Jumbo these gurus state that really have no
standing to engage in such misplaced remedies.

 

FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH, SOME INFO FROM LARRY BECRAFT:

 

Often, laws must be read in full and in context in order to properly
understand them. The “public policy” you reference that is mentioned in HJR
192 appears to be explained in the first part of HJR 192:

 

“Whereas the holding of or dealing in gold affect the public interest, and
therefore subject to proper regulation and restriction; and

 

“Whereas the existing emergency has disclosed that provisions of obligations
which purport to give the obligee a right to require payment in gold or a
particular kind of coin or currency of the United States, or in an amount of
money of the United States measured thereby, obstruct the power of the
Congress to regulate the value of money of the United States, and are
inconsistent with the declared policy of the Congress to maintain at all
times the equal power of every dollar, coined or issued by the United
States, in the markets and in payment of debts.”

 

Thus the “public policy” you mention is the Congressional desire to
“regulate the value of money of the United States” and “to maintain at all
times the equal power of every dollar, coined or issued by the United
States, in the markets and in payment of debts.”

 

You may read HJR 192 here:

 

http://educationcenter2000.com/legal/HJR_192_73rdCongress.html

 

But of course, those are merely empty words of Congress; they are really
lies. Congress today exercises its constitutional monetary powers only to
provide this country with minor coins like pennies and quarters, which
themselves are debased. It coins no “dollars” and allows an interstate
monster, the Fed and organized banking, to monopolize credit and force us to
use only bank credit as a medium of exchange. That Congressional cabal has
erected a “weapon for quiet wars” designed to enslave the American people.

 

However, people are incorrect to think of HJR 192 in terms of some national
bankruptcy. It was just one step, and a big one, in the war of fiat paper
against specie carried out by the friends of paper money. That is exactly
what HJR 192 was.

 

 

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Subject: Re: GCongress> Fw: HJR 192 and its legal effect

 

given that your evidence is likely correct and that you state the conversion
from actual money system to the credit system that it was replaced with is
unconstitutional................ what is the remedy?  Are the people not due
a remedy?  the gurus tell us that the remedy was hjr 192 that is now
codefied at 31 USC Section 5118(d)(2)

 

here is what the gurus are saying:

 

A piece of the legal authority for commercial process International Bill of
Exchange item tendered for discharge of debt, The instrument AS MAY BE
tendered to you through your bank (financial institution) and to be
negotiated to the United States Treasury for settlement is an “Obligation of
the United States,” under Title 18 USC sect.8, representing as the
definition provides a “certificate of indebtedness
drawn upon an authorized
officer of the United States,” (in this case the Secretary of the Treasury)
“issued under an Act of Congress”, in this case Public Law 73-10, and Title
31 USC 3123 and 31 USC 5103 and 48, 48 Stat 112 and by treaty; in this case
the UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON INTERNATIONAL BILLS OF EXCHANGE AND
INTERNATIONAL PROMISSORRY NOTES (UNCITRAL) and the Universal Postal Union
headquartered in Bern, Switzerland). The International Bill of Exchange is
legal tender as a national bank note, note of a national Banking
Association, by legal tender and/or statutory definition (UCC 4-105, 12 CFR
§§229.2, 210.2, 12 USC 1813), issued under authority of the United States
Code  31 USC 392, 5103, which officially defines this as a statutory legal
tender of THE UNITED STATES, and is issued in accordance with 31 USC 3123
and 48, 48 Stat 112 which establish and provide for the issuance as “Public
Policy” in remedy for discharge of equity interest recovery on that portion
of the public debt to its Principals, and Sureties bearing the obligations
of THE UNITED STATES. “
31 USC Section 5118(d)(2) provided for many years
that a requirement of repayment of debt in a particular kind of coin or
currency could be made by legal tender. As of October 27, 1977, legal tender
for discharge of debt is no longer required. That is because legal tender is
not in circulation at par with the promise to pay credit. Negotiable
Instruments via Guaranty Trust of New York v. Henwood, et al 59 S CT 847
(1933), 307 U.S. 847 (1939), FN3 NOS 384, 485 holds that 31 U.S.C. was
enacted to remedy the specific evil of tying debt to any particular currency
or requiring payment in a greater number of dollars than promised. Since
October 27, 1977, there can be no requirement of repayment in legal tender
either.. since legal tender was not loaned and repayment need only be in
equivalent kind: A negotiable instrument representing credit, i.e. an
International Bill of exchange
” Or as otherwise stated; NO ONE TODAY CAN
MAKE DEMAND IN PAYMENT IN ANY SPECIFIC COIN OR CURRENCY! This Bill of
Exchange/Trade Acceptance is in accord with Public Law Chapter 48, 48 Stat.
112 & HJR 192 June 5, 1933 & the Uniform Commercial Code, and is presented
for the receiver to the federal Window, for settlement (EFT), within the 3
day Truth-in-Lending time for settlement.  As of 1933 no person has lawful
money of account to ‘pay’ debts at law without becoming a tort feasor.
‘accepted for value’ and ‘Bills of exchange are lawful to discharge debt
under Public Law 73-10, 48, 48 Stat 112  HJR-192 of 1933, Title 31 USC 3123,
and 31 USC 5103 and by treaty; in this case the United nations Convention on
International Bills of Exchange and International promissory notes
(UNCITRAL) and the Universal Postal Union Headquartered in Berne
Switzerland.  The International Bill of Exchange is legal tender as a
national bank note, or note of a National Banking Association, by legal
and/or statutory definition (UCC 4-105, 12 CFR Sec. 229.2, 210.2,12 USC
1813). Issued under authority of the UNITED STATES Code 31 USC 392, 5103,
which officially defines this as a statutory legal tender obligation of the
UNITED STATES, and is issued in accordance with 31 USC 3123 and 48, 48 Stat
112 which establish and provide for its issuance as “Public Policy” in
remedy for discharge of equity interest recovery on that portion of the
public debt to its principals, and sureties of the UNITED STATES. I declare
that legal tender was not loaned by the bank and therefore legal tender does
not have to be used in the repayment.  Citing the Henwwood case”
“
negotiable Instruments via Guaranty Trust of New York v. Henwood, et al 59
S CT 847 (1933), 307 U.S. 847 (1939), FN3 NOS 384 485 holds that 31 U.S.C.
5118 was enacted to remedy the specific evil of tying debt to any particular
currency or requiring payment in a greater number of dollars than promised.
Since October 27, 1977 there can be no requirement of repayment in legal
tender either, since legal tender was not loaned and repayment need only be
made in equivalent kind: A negotiable Instrument representing credit, i.e.;
an International Bill of Exchange
” Or as otherwise stated; NO ONE TODAY CAN
MAKE DEMAND IN PAYMENT IN ANY SPECIFIC COIN OR CURRENCY! that private
unincorporated persons whose private assets and property are being used to
collateralize the obligations of the United States since 1933, are
collectively and nationally constituting a legal class of persons being a
“national bank” or “national banking association” with the right to issue
such notes  against the obligation of the UNITED STATES  for equity interest
recovery due and accrued to these Principals and Sureties of the United
States backing the obligations of US currency and credit; as a means for the
legal tender discharge 


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